@Shegs said:
Just so we don't split our votes, I am calling on everyone who had voted for any thing Rabbit or Animal related to consolidate your votes under Rabbit... As for the idea of Revit and Rabbit being close I would say the only thing they have in common is "it", Revizto the BIM collaboration app has a closer name to Revit than "Rabbit". I mean If we are going Abstract or non descriptive name why not go with something had has a origin story, in my opinion, in almost everything, the best story always wins. I mean all you need to do is flip the Logo sideways and your have bunny ears. So calling on all animal votes to switch to Rabbit if no one has an objection, In the end I still trust the community to make the best decision.
Also is Coraldraw not still a thing? https://www.coreldraw.com/en/
It took me two years to understand that Revizto was not linked to Revit aha.
Also Bunny feats with the B logo, which is why I like Bonsai too.
Coral is awesome as it relates with Shell.
Bonsai sounds good for all the reasons mentioned in the previous comments. BonsaiBIM would hello us keep the BBIM acronym as well if we go in that direction. Also it sounds very marketable as a brand.
@Shegs said:
Just so we don't split our votes, I am calling on everyone who had voted for any thing Rabbit or Animal related to consolidate your votes under Rabbit... As for the idea of Revit and Rabbit being close I would say the only thing they have in common is "it", Revizto the BIM collaboration app has a closer name to Revit than "Rabbit". I mean If we are going Abstract or non descriptive name why not go with something had has a origin story, in my opinion, in almost everything, the best story always wins. I mean all you need to do is flip the Logo sideways and your have bunny ears. So calling on all animal votes to switch to Rabbit if no one has an objection, In the end I still trust the community to make the best decision.
Also is Coraldraw not still a thing? https://www.coreldraw.com/en/
It took me two years to understand that Revizto was not linked to Revit aha.
Also Bunny feats with the B logo, which is why I like Bonsai too.
Coral is awesome as it relates with Shell.
"b b" are bunny ears and we are all interested in this double-consonant from "BlenderBIM" history ? So then, yes, lean into it.
Rabbit (a.k.a. 'bb' Bunny BIM) is an Ifc-native authoring and design add-on leveraging IfcOpenShell for data handling in the Blender 3D modeling environment.
Website(s): rabbitifcaddon blenderbim bbifcaddon bifcad bbifcad bunnybim blenderbim ... whatever you care to register.
Hi! I am not really sure about the name.... My vote goes for:
1) IfcLab. I think short is better. I like the idea beyond Lab and I think it matches with what it is blenderBim now.
2) Coral. In the long run I think it would be nice not to have the word Ifc on it. Why was Coral suggested? In catalan/spanish it means something done by many people at the same time I supose that's the reason.
@brunopostle said: @KoArabonsai is a familiar word in a European/north American context. It doesn't have any retro meaning. It would represent compact beauty, and nurturing over a long period of time. Would the name be a problem in Japan?
Coral is well-known as an AI TPU accelerator from Google Inc, and however nice "coral" is as a name you probably want to stay away from any branding that Google Inc lawyers are tasked to zealously defend.
... and this is a rabbit corral (double-'r' makes it a different word) :-)
@Shadow said:
Coral is well-known as an AI TPU accelerator from Google Inc, and however nice "coral" is as a name you probably want to stay away from any branding that Google Inc lawyers are tasked to zealously defend.
... and this is a rabbit corral (double-'r' makes it a different word) :-)
I quite like this one. But I'm not sure whether people new to the world of IFC are really enticed by this. I would say in the long run, (Native)IFC could evolve to be an implementation detail for the average user.
BIM bimaddon.org
I would opt for BBIM in this case. It's already the default acronym anyway. It's recognizable has some history to it. And it can appeal to people outside of the IFC / Opensource ecosystems. And we can probably retain the domain name for the time being.
IfcLab ifclab.org
Don't want to question the authority of Moult's wife, but it's not my favourite. "Lab" to me seems to hint at some temporary R&D effort that can be dismantled at any time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Labs). Also again, maybe IFC could evolve to be an implementation detail for the average user. It's also maybe somewhat easily confused with a class name from the IFC schema, more so than IfcOpenSuite.
Bonsai / BonsaiBIM
In this case I would also opt for BBIM and let people for themselves decide whether the B stands for Blender, Bonsai, or "Plan B". I quite like Plan B actually. "Plan B" refers to an alternative strategy or backup plan that someone prepares in case their original plan (Plan A) doesn't work out as expected. BBIM is like the Plan B for our industry where previous attempts have all fallen short. Edit: or the B-side of a vinyl record (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-side_and_B-side) which is maybe less mainstream, but better?
What about BBIMColab or IfcColab or IfcDesignColab.
"Colab" sounds more of "Collaborate" which is what IFC model is all about.
OR if Google lawyers will still come knocking at the door then it can be corrupted to BBIMKolab or IfcKolab or IfcDesignKolab OR BBIMQuolab or IfcQuolab or IfcDesignQuolab.
Can I reassure everybody that regardless of what name is picked, whether or not it contains the letter B, our cute little rabbit mascot (whose name is Cinnamon, by the way) will not be going away anytime soon :)
latest thought... building on words from names already suggested BIMopenworks, BIM and open meaning is obvious but **works **has multiple meanings as a verb; perform labor or exert effort, function or operate, have an effect (open BIM works well), The plan works as expected, accomplish or produce and as a noun; This addon has the works. Hints at 'public works' or the works of a creative person and so on. The sentences 'BIM open works' suggests open BIM actually works, also it suggests 'the works' of open BIM has everything in it but also 'open works' suggest a factory or the intricacies of the machine.
My only problem with Bonsai is, that the meaning really is "a miniature version of the real thing". But I still like it more than anything else here, considering all the arguments.
So please scratch my vote from icOpenSuite and add me to team Bonsai
(I still like coral better, but it seem har to find a proper domain. Cinnamon is also not bad)
What is a bit missing for me in the term bonsai is the multi-disciplinary nature of bbim and the collaborative development process behind it. We're probably the tool with the greatest breadth of schema coverage. I don't know a lot about Japanese culture, but for me bonsai is primarily an individual's expression.
I kind of like how the Earth is vast, complex, incredible, and here we are trying to do our little virtual copy of it with our humble naive understanding of it trying to do our very best with the world (well, uh, naivety shows here).
I also kind of like how "Bonsai" is a fun play on the upcoming trends of "digital twin". I also think there will come a time where IfcGit, OpenCDE, BCF, and IDS will all start coming together and that's when a name that emphasizes the chorus of participants comes in :) (maybe, maybe, maybe a server-side suite with a collective name TBD, and a client-side suite called Bonsai that can connect to it)
@chunchk any chance of having those rabbits in brown? :) Cinnamon is a brown bunny :) (it could be the next release image!)
+1 for BonsaiBIM and coral if it's possible to have it. BonsaiBIM has the advantage of keeping the logo and bbim acronym and describes what the project is about. And search optimisation for just "bonsai" would prob. be difficult. And "bonsaibim.org" is a good, available domain.
I def think that unique names without "ifc, open, suite, native", and to a degree BIM, sound less generic and more memorable. Also, words with a double consonant like "BBim" don't sound good when said out loud, in a sentence.
I see the name as something that can have a huge impact in attracting or repulsing users.
Coming from marketing to architecture, I can't really see anything IFC labeled catching with general public like blender did. This may have the opposite effect driven them away and scared with the bridge their minds are going to connect with this technical shenanigans designers and architects don't want to be bothered about. The "libre" stuff is now connected to a perception of poor quality office versions ( I dont agree with the perception just acknowledge it), also the libre/free projects tends to get stagnated, and Coral may be mistaken with Corel. Lol.
I do like:
Bonsai - is indeed a very marketable name.
Nativa - sound very fancy.
AECStudio - is something we all can relate to (simple and direct). Also it seems really proper to attract and centralizing all future AeC efforts into it's umbrella.
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It took me two years to understand that Revizto was not linked to Revit aha.
Also Bunny feats with the B logo, which is why I like Bonsai too.
Coral is awesome as it relates with Shell.
Why not Rabbim then? Anyway I wote for BIM or BBIM.
That's a really fun word association between (ifcopen)shell and coral. It completely went over my head :)
BTW if you like a name and it's on the list without a domain name (e.g. Bonsai, Coral, Rabbit...) please do suggest a domain name (ending in .org).
Bonsai sounds good for all the reasons mentioned in the previous comments. BonsaiBIM would hello us keep the BBIM acronym as well if we go in that direction. Also it sounds very marketable as a brand.
"b b" are bunny ears and we are all interested in this double-consonant from "BlenderBIM" history ? So then, yes, lean into it.
Rabbit (a.k.a. 'bb' Bunny BIM) is an Ifc-native authoring and design add-on leveraging IfcOpenShell for data handling in the Blender 3D modeling environment.
Website(s): rabbitifcaddon blenderbim bbifcaddon bifcad bbifcad bunnybim blenderbim ... whatever you care to register.
Hi! I am not really sure about the name.... My vote goes for:
1) IfcLab. I think short is better. I like the idea beyond Lab and I think it matches with what it is blenderBim now.
2) Coral. In the long run I think it would be nice not to have the word Ifc on it. Why was Coral suggested? In catalan/spanish it means something done by many people at the same time I supose that's the reason.
No problem:) The word is familiar to us.
Coral is well-known as an AI TPU accelerator from Google Inc, and however nice "coral" is as a name you probably want to stay away from any branding that Google Inc lawyers are tasked to zealously defend.
... and this is a rabbit corral (double-'r' makes it a different word) :-)
IFCFrame
BIMFrame
or 'Carrot' as opposed to the corporate stick
Wow awesome creativity guys.
I quite like this one. But I'm not sure whether people new to the world of IFC are really enticed by this. I would say in the long run, (Native)IFC could evolve to be an implementation detail for the average user.
I would opt for
BBIMin this case. It's already the default acronym anyway. It's recognizable has some history to it. And it can appeal to people outside of the IFC / Opensource ecosystems. And we can probably retain the domain name for the time being.Don't want to question the authority of Moult's wife, but it's not my favourite. "Lab" to me seems to hint at some temporary R&D effort that can be dismantled at any time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Labs). Also again, maybe IFC could evolve to be an implementation detail for the average user. It's also maybe somewhat easily confused with a class name from the IFC schema, more so than IfcOpenSuite.
In this case I would also opt for
BBIMand let people for themselves decide whether the B stands for Blender, Bonsai, or "Plan B". I quite like Plan B actually. "Plan B" refers to an alternative strategy or backup plan that someone prepares in case their original plan (Plan A) doesn't work out as expected. BBIM is like the Plan B for our industry where previous attempts have all fallen short. Edit: or the B-side of a vinyl record (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-side_and_B-side) which is maybe less mainstream, but better?Plan B is a good one, "try Plan B", "We switched to Plan B", "you can do this with Plan B".
There are lots of existing 'plan-b' services and companies, but I don't see any in the aec/BIM space.
@Shadow your bim model is awesome!
I agree with the guys who underline the continuity with the BBIM name, it can save the bunny mascotte of Bunny-BIM
Some awesome suggestions
Bonsai,
I back
What about
BBIMColaborIfcColaborIfcDesignColab."Colab" sounds more of "Collaborate" which is what IFC model is all about.
OR if Google lawyers will still come knocking at the door then it can be corrupted to
BBIMKolaborIfcKolaborIfcDesignKolabORBBIMQuolaborIfcQuolaborIfcDesignQuolab.In that case I think the makers of https://www.bimcollab.com/en/ would like to have a word with you ;)
Can I reassure everybody that regardless of what name is picked, whether or not it contains the letter B, our cute little rabbit mascot (whose name is Cinnamon, by the way) will not be going away anytime soon :)
latest thought... building on words from names already suggested BIMopenworks, BIM and open meaning is obvious but **works **has multiple meanings as a verb; perform labor or exert effort, function or operate, have an effect (open BIM works well), The plan works as expected, accomplish or produce and as a noun; This addon has the works. Hints at 'public works' or the works of a creative person and so on. The sentences 'BIM open works' suggests open BIM actually works, also it suggests 'the works' of open BIM has everything in it but also 'open works' suggest a factory or the intricacies of the machine.
LeaderBIM
+1 to Bonsai / BonsaiBIM
checked with Copilot...here are what I got
Well I'm convinced :D
My only problem with Bonsai is, that the meaning really is "a miniature version of the real thing". But I still like it more than anything else here, considering all the arguments.
So please scratch my vote from icOpenSuite and add me to team Bonsai
(I still like coral better, but it seem har to find a proper domain. Cinnamon is also not bad)
What is a bit missing for me in the term bonsai is the multi-disciplinary nature of bbim and the collaborative development process behind it. We're probably the tool with the greatest breadth of schema coverage. I don't know a lot about Japanese culture, but for me bonsai is primarily an individual's expression.
I kind of like how the Earth is vast, complex, incredible, and here we are trying to do our little virtual copy of it with our humble naive understanding of it trying to do our very best with the world (well, uh, naivety shows here).
I also kind of like how "Bonsai" is a fun play on the upcoming trends of "digital twin". I also think there will come a time where IfcGit, OpenCDE, BCF, and IDS will all start coming together and that's when a name that emphasizes the chorus of participants comes in :) (maybe, maybe, maybe a server-side suite with a collective name TBD, and a client-side suite called Bonsai that can connect to it)
@chunchk any chance of having those rabbits in brown? :) Cinnamon is a brown bunny :) (it could be the next release image!)
+1 for BonsaiBIM and coral if it's possible to have it. BonsaiBIM has the advantage of keeping the logo and bbim acronym and describes what the project is about. And search optimisation for just "bonsai" would prob. be difficult. And "bonsaibim.org" is a good, available domain.
I def think that unique names without "ifc, open, suite, native", and to a degree BIM, sound less generic and more memorable. Also, words with a double consonant like "BBim" don't sound good when said out loud, in a sentence.
how about NativeBIM
I see the name as something that can have a huge impact in attracting or repulsing users.
Coming from marketing to architecture, I can't really see anything IFC labeled catching with general public like blender did. This may have the opposite effect driven them away and scared with the bridge their minds are going to connect with this technical shenanigans designers and architects don't want to be bothered about. The "libre" stuff is now connected to a perception of poor quality office versions ( I dont agree with the perception just acknowledge it), also the libre/free projects tends to get stagnated, and Coral may be mistaken with Corel. Lol.
I do like:
Bonsai - is indeed a very marketable name.
Nativa - sound very fancy.
AECStudio - is something we all can relate to (simple and direct). Also it seems really proper to attract and centralizing all future AeC efforts into it's umbrella.
Bonsai sounds good to me. So I'm +1 for bonsai.