I don't find anything on this. Anyone aware of anything?
I don't talk about modeling in Bonsai structural stuff, but proper workflow and use of Bonsai BIM and IFC capabilities for structural analysis workflows. You know, the loads and everything.
The Bonsai panel for editing analysis models is quite sophisticated, though I can't say how complete it is. There are some example structural IFC models in this repository: https://github.com/IfcOpenShell/analysis-models if you want to explore.
This has all been built by @Jesusbill using codeaster as the analysis engine. I have another experimental workflow that uses gmsh and calculix as the engine, let me know if you would like to play with this and I'll make it public.
This has all been built by @Jesusbill using codeaster as the analysis engine. I have another experimental workflow that uses gmsh and calculix as the engine, let me know if you would like to play with this and I'll make it public.
Please do it
I know a few engineers who would love to know how to use Bonsai's panel dedicated to structural analysis, it's been sitting there for quite some time alone, poor thing deserves some attention :)
On a more serious note, to me panels and menu options for features in Bonsai that do not have minimum support or workflow (start-end of what they are meant to do) do create confusion to newcomers before they learn how to ignore them
Maybe they should be purposely contained into the Sandbox panel? I'd love to hear others' views on this.
@steverugi I need to add some disclaimers to the documentation first, it looks much more polished than it is - and I don't want to offer false hope.
This is also the same problem you identify with Bonsai, eg. the space boundary tool works, but isn't ready for day to day use. Putting it in a sandbox panel guarantees that nobody will find it and reduces the chance of somebody fixing it up.
This is also the same problem you identify with Bonsai, eg. the space boundary tool works, but isn't ready for day to day use. Putting it in a sandbox panel guarantees that nobody will find it and reduces the chance of somebody fixing it up.
Fair point
In my opinion we also need to balance it with the scary effect for those who want to venture into the Blender/Bonsai's rabbit hole.
Sometime in the future "we" will need to decide what to do when we grow older, lest we might lose the privilege accumulated so far as the golden boy of FOSS / IFC native authoring software.
The way I see it certain areas of Bonsai considered "battle-ready" need to be put at the front line to attract more users (and potential donors in money or collaboration), and receive some priority to explain their usage in real professional life. For some important tasks Bonsai is mature enough, I'd like to see our champion shine where already fit.
Other features that are good but still under full development need to be visible enough to lure attention but somehow highlighted as "limbo features" that work with some additional effort, not yet as streamlined as the first category.
Last but not least, those features (third category) that are at an experimental level may live into a side environment/panel, I agree that it can become a dumping lot there, but we can't move on too far if we don't decide to prune something realistically far in the future to be presented as a working feature in the real world.
Maybe too soon? IMHO Bonsai should hatch somehow within 2026/7, ugly duck first, beautiful swan later
thanks
There are no solutions, only trade-offs (T.Sowell)
This has all been built by @Jesusbill using codeaster as the analysis engine. I have another experimental workflow that uses gmsh and calculix as the engine, let me know if you would like to play with this and I'll make it public.
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I wish. Not that I know.
Would love to see this developed more.
The Bonsai panel for editing analysis models is quite sophisticated, though I can't say how complete it is. There are some example structural IFC models in this repository: https://github.com/IfcOpenShell/analysis-models if you want to explore.
This has all been built by @Jesusbill using codeaster as the analysis engine. I have another experimental workflow that uses gmsh and calculix as the engine, let me know if you would like to play with this and I'll make it public.
@brunopostle
Please do it
I know a few engineers who would love to know how to use Bonsai's panel dedicated to structural analysis, it's been sitting there for quite some time alone, poor thing deserves some attention :)
On a more serious note, to me panels and menu options for features in Bonsai that do not have minimum support or workflow (start-end of what they are meant to do) do create confusion to newcomers before they learn how to ignore them
Maybe they should be purposely contained into the Sandbox panel? I'd love to hear others' views on this.
Thanks
@steverugi I need to add some disclaimers to the documentation first, it looks much more polished than it is - and I don't want to offer false hope.
This is also the same problem you identify with Bonsai, eg. the space boundary tool works, but isn't ready for day to day use. Putting it in a sandbox panel guarantees that nobody will find it and reduces the chance of somebody fixing it up.
As Stefano suggested if they are all in sandbox they can be not displayed in the preferences
@Nigel it could be like AutoCAD, where the unfinished experimental tools have been in a separate menu since the last century
one time it's good to be like autodesk ;)
@brunopostle
Fair point
In my opinion we also need to balance it with the scary effect for those who want to venture into the Blender/Bonsai's rabbit hole.
Sometime in the future "we" will need to decide what to do when we grow older, lest we might lose the privilege accumulated so far as the golden boy of FOSS / IFC native authoring software.
The way I see it certain areas of Bonsai considered "battle-ready" need to be put at the front line to attract more users (and potential donors in money or collaboration), and receive some priority to explain their usage in real professional life. For some important tasks Bonsai is mature enough, I'd like to see our champion shine where already fit.
Other features that are good but still under full development need to be visible enough to lure attention but somehow highlighted as "limbo features" that work with some additional effort, not yet as streamlined as the first category.
Last but not least, those features (third category) that are at an experimental level may live into a side environment/panel, I agree that it can become a dumping lot there, but we can't move on too far if we don't decide to prune something realistically far in the future to be presented as a working feature in the real world.
Maybe too soon? IMHO Bonsai should hatch somehow within 2026/7, ugly duck first, beautiful swan later
thanks
Blender has an EXPERIMENTAL icon, maybe this could highlight experimental features.
..and/or maybe the experimental features could be in collapsible panels that stay collapsed between sessions.
Here it is: ifc_structural_mechanics.
..and a screenshot: